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Karl P (2004-12-13T10:29:27Z)
Yes I realised that my first point (at the bottom) is incorrect and what I really intended to say was that p is a divisor of that repunit and no shorter repunit.
I thought about the second part and this gave rise to a proof of what David wanted proving about k, without referring to quadratic residues.
I suspected the p-1 digit period, taken as an integer, is of the form of either
n*10^k - n
or
n*10^k + n
for some integer n with k or fewer (if p>10) digits and n ends in 1,3,7 or 9.
For p=7, n=143 and 142857=143000-143.
This implies what David wanted proving, except the part about whether the (k+1)st digit is 9 or 0.
I realised that the p-1 digit period taken as an integer is
(10^(p-1)-1)/p. What I was suspecting is equivalent to saying that either
(10^(p-1)-1)/p = (10^k-1)*n
or
(10^(p-1)-1)/p = (10^k+1)*n .
but not both.
Noting that p-1 = 2*k, we have
(10^(p-1)-1) = (10^k-1)*(10^k+1).
So we have n equal to either
(10^k+1)/p or (10^k-1)/p .
Since p is a divisor of the product (10^(p-1)-1) and is prime, it must be a divisor of either (10^k+1) or (10^k-1)
and for p>2 not both. Hence either (10^k+1)/p or (10^k-1)/p is a whole number (which was called n). n must end in 1,3,7 or 9, because it is a divisor of such a number (10^(p-1)-1).
For p>11 this causes the (k+1)st digit of the decimal period to be either 9 or 0.
The same proof can be applied to all other bases.
The outstanding issue is for what values of p is p a divisor of (10^k+1)?
Ruxor (2004-12-10T22:59:47Z)
Karl P → Concerning your repunit question, the answer is “no”: it is *always* true of a prime p that it divides the (p−1)-digit repunit (at least in any base b such that neither b nor b−1 are multiple of p); for example, 7 divides 111111, 11 divides 1111111111, 13 divides 111111111111, and so on. This follows readily from Fermat's “little” theorem (p divides b^(p−1)−1 if it does not divide b) and by writing the repunit in question as (b^(p−1)−1)/(b−1) where b is the base. The question I am asking is much harder; it is probably “more or less” equivalent to asking whether there are an infinite number of primes p such that p does *not* divide any repunit of length shorter than p−1. Concerning your other question, the answer is “yes”: the period is always in one of the forms that you indicate (and which it is depends on whether 10 is quadratric residue or nonresidue modulo the prime).
Karl P (2004-12-10T13:45:08Z)
Thinking of the (k)th and (k+1)st decimal, I suspect that the p+1 digit period, taken as an integer, is of the form of either
n*10^k - n
or
n*10^k + n
for some integer n with k or fewer (if p>10) digits and n ends in 1,3,7 or 9.
For p=7, n=143 and 142857=143000-143.
Is this true?
Karl P (2004-12-10T12:59:38Z)
Is the last question equivalent to saying
are there an infinite number of prime numbers p such that p is a divisor of the p-1 digit repunit (all digits = 1), in a given base?
For example, p=7 in decimal has 111111 = 3*7*11*13*37.